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but the nra is a fearsome political lobby. members particularly in the republican party are terrified of being primaried. this issue is often covered through a partisan prism when it should be looked at through a regional prism. if you talk about democrats in the south, in the mountain west, and places like north dakota, and you saw the new saar heidi heitkamp come out and she thinks some of the proposals coming out of the white house are way too extreme for her. so you'll have republican senators like mark kirk in illinois who have been open in the past on issues like assault weapons bans, and you'll have democrats in the west, the mountain west and the rural south that will be absolutely opposed to it. and as you said earlier, though it is nonsense, and i'm certainly a person who believes that you can be a second amendment supporter, and also have sensible regulations on guns, but this issue plays out on the extremes, on the absurd binary choice that has defined the issue for so long. >> and that analysis, what you said ther
but the nra is a fearsome political lobby. members particularly in the republican party are terrified of being primaried. this issue is often covered through a partisan prism when it should be looked at through a regional prism. if you talk about democrats in the south, in the mountain west, and places like north dakota, and you saw the new saar heidi heitkamp come out and she thinks some of the proposals coming out of the white house are way too extreme for her. so you'll have republican...
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the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm happy you made regarding gun manufacturers and the amount of money they put into the everyday moms and dads that they like to refer to. thank you very much for your time. it's a pleasure. a 15-year-old high school band majorette performed at somebody president obama's festivities has become a latest shooting victim. she was shot in the back tuesday in a park. authorities say she was one of about a dozen teens standing under a canopy during heavy rain when a man ran towards the fence and opened fire. a teen boy was also shot in the lug. he belonged
the nra leadership represents the gun industry. the capitol management and remington smith and wesson and bushmast bushmaster. that's where the money comes from. the nra members pay $35 to be a member and it costs $100 for the membership. that's a loss leader. it's just so the nra leadership can say we have numbers, but it's the gun industry who is unregulate and gives tens of millions to the nra and buying off congress. it's time for congress to find their backbone. >> it is a point i'm...
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you know, when the nra -- >> do you think that was written before the meeting? >> i think you can find that statement from the files from years past. >> yes. >> when they say you're taking our gun it's away from us, get your cold dead fingers off them, it's not just true about guns, restrictions on magazines, the type of bullets. they have opposed and fought every sensible measure. the only way this succeeds is over the body of the nra. >> all the solutions they propose happen to increase gun sales. all of their solutions are about finding ways to get more guns into the hands of-mile-an-hour people and this new little industry that's popping up which is training people to be a first responder in the classroom or a nurse first responder. all of that is an industry and the nra benefits. >> if you're a nurse, you can shoot and then you can treat. >> indeed. you have two hands. >> of course. david corn, joy r50ed, thank you both so much. >>> coming up, will the man with the illegible signature get tough on wall street? stay with us. >> jack assures me he is going to
you know, when the nra -- >> do you think that was written before the meeting? >> i think you can find that statement from the files from years past. >> yes. >> when they say you're taking our gun it's away from us, get your cold dead fingers off them, it's not just true about guns, restrictions on magazines, the type of bullets. they have opposed and fought every sensible measure. the only way this succeeds is over the body of the nra. >> all the solutions they...
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until now, he's been fighting a weak enemy because there's no money or force of the nra. one of the group's vice president's task force will meet with this week and now rising to fight the nra and led by gabby giffords and husband mark kelly who sat down with diane sawyer. >> i have a gun. we're both gun owners. we are strong supporters of the 2nd amendment but we have to do something to keep the guns from getting in to the wrong hands. >> when it can happen to children in the classroom, it's time to say -- >> enough. >> giffords is a former legislat legislator, makes her perfectly poised to lead a new pac and new legislation from the president to sport and including background checks for every gun, banning -- every gun buyer and magazines and making gun trafficking laws national. but will any of that pass and make a difference? let's spin. i welcome gabby giffords in to the fight because they're so decimated. there's billions of dollars to be made in gun rights and nothing to be made in gun control. i like the white house's first step and this may get watered down as we
until now, he's been fighting a weak enemy because there's no money or force of the nra. one of the group's vice president's task force will meet with this week and now rising to fight the nra and led by gabby giffords and husband mark kelly who sat down with diane sawyer. >> i have a gun. we're both gun owners. we are strong supporters of the 2nd amendment but we have to do something to keep the guns from getting in to the wrong hands. >> when it can happen to children in the...
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and then we have a form nra member who quit in disgust over the position the nra is holding on these gun-control legislation, because they are way too extreme. and then we have a story about how the city of oakland is spending so much more money on the raiders than they are on cops, and the results that is having. a young mother from oakland says she is afraid to have a young black boy in oakland. and we have a filmmaker that made a movie about how they are crying to create creationism in texas. >> jennifer: wow. sounds like a jam-packed night. all right. we'll be watching at the top of the hour. thanks, cenk. >> thank you. >> jennifer: chuck hagel will face some tough questions tomorrow. he has been nominated for secretary of defense and the neo-cons are not thrilled about the prospect of hagel heading up the military because they are concerned that he won't protect the defense budget from the sharp spending cuts that are expected with the ending of the wars in iraq and afghanistan, and the looming threat of the sequester, those cuts could slash the pentagon's budget -- here is what
and then we have a form nra member who quit in disgust over the position the nra is holding on these gun-control legislation, because they are way too extreme. and then we have a story about how the city of oakland is spending so much more money on the raiders than they are on cops, and the results that is having. a young mother from oakland says she is afraid to have a young black boy in oakland. and we have a filmmaker that made a movie about how they are crying to create creationism in...
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happened in aurora, what happened in tucson, what happened in knew newtown, then that unearths to the nra's benefit. what appears in the vice president's commission appears to be doing is looking at ways to mobilize the anger and frustration about what happened in newtown. >> let me ask you this quickly. i asked you earlier, the washington post, your paper's report, says that president obama wouldn't have to get congressional approval for some of the measures. "possibilities include changes in federal mental health programs and modernization of gun trafficking efforts by the bureau of alcohol, tobacco, firearms and explosives. >> right. and so, you know, again, these are recommend daxs that we're hearing about from a commission that isn't exactly holding public hearings. i think what we need to do is wait and see what they propose. and then, also, how they propose the president is able to do these things. i think the question will be how? what's the legal basis for the president to do the sings that they say they can do on his own. >> well, we'll be watching. jonathan, thank you so much for
happened in aurora, what happened in tucson, what happened in knew newtown, then that unearths to the nra's benefit. what appears in the vice president's commission appears to be doing is looking at ways to mobilize the anger and frustration about what happened in newtown. >> let me ask you this quickly. i asked you earlier, the washington post, your paper's report, says that president obama wouldn't have to get congressional approval for some of the measures. "possibilities include...
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of course, the nra s a strong lobby. the issue here is who s going to represent the voices of the american people in this debate. things that seem like common sense to the american people. they scrub stand that we need to protect people's right to own a gun in their own home and protect themselves but there is something tragically wrong when there is mass slaughter so we have to solve this problem and i think getting -- >> chris: it are you going to launch a campaign. talk about raisin money and big grass roots organization. >> and the thing is bringing the voices in. we need the leadership of the president and i expect the president president to play a strong leadership role. progressive organizations will work in the states and make sure that we have the voice and we wily have the american people and even gun owners who is support these proposals their voices at the table as well. >> chris: mr. pratt, i think you you would agree the national wave of horror over the slaughter of the 20 small children in newtown, last mo
of course, the nra s a strong lobby. the issue here is who s going to represent the voices of the american people in this debate. things that seem like common sense to the american people. they scrub stand that we need to protect people's right to own a gun in their own home and protect themselves but there is something tragically wrong when there is mass slaughter so we have to solve this problem and i think getting -- >> chris: it are you going to launch a campaign. talk about raisin...
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the nra sticking to plan. >> absolutely. of all the groups the only one that's really been able to galvanize their base of support is the nra. everyone else seems to be fractured and in pockets. the more that those voices out there can gal vanize the people behind some movement that supports the ultimate gain -- >> i hear you. don't underestimate the newtown families. >> i agree. >> 9/11 victims' families were powerful political force. >> i agree. >> newtown families could become a very powerful force. shameless plug time. shira. >> my northwestern wildcats for winning their first bowl game in 64 years. >> if it wasn't for northwestern the big 10 -- >> i never thought anyone would say that sentence. >> how about that? >> i'm shameless plugging my husband's grandma is -- her birthday is coming up this weekend. she is an msnbc watcher. hello. >> she's probably watching right now. >> she probably is. >> hi, grandma. >> shamelessly plugging my washington redskins. i want to thank them for the thrill of a lifetime. >> will there
the nra sticking to plan. >> absolutely. of all the groups the only one that's really been able to galvanize their base of support is the nra. everyone else seems to be fractured and in pockets. the more that those voices out there can gal vanize the people behind some movement that supports the ultimate gain -- >> i hear you. don't underestimate the newtown families. >> i agree. >> 9/11 victims' families were powerful political force. >> i agree. >> newtown...
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you've been talking to members of the nra? >> his strategy is to make sure that he is being inclusive. this is going to move very quickly. the vice president saying earlier today that is he going to give his recommendations to president obama by tuesday so, he wants to be able to argue that he has listened to everyone, and they're really doing that. three meetings at the white house today, including one with the nra and five other shooting support groups. earlier today the vice president met with ducks unlimited and some other sort of water fowl outdoor sports groups, and later today the attorney general is meeting with retailers, including cabella's, wal-mart, and some others. they're all trying to get their ideas. we're told that in this most sensitive meeting, this one at 1:45 that includes the national rifle association, vice president biden is really going to push them to participate to say we need to try and find some area for common ground, for compromise. we're not going to et let you just come in here and give us your
you've been talking to members of the nra? >> his strategy is to make sure that he is being inclusive. this is going to move very quickly. the vice president saying earlier today that is he going to give his recommendations to president obama by tuesday so, he wants to be able to argue that he has listened to everyone, and they're really doing that. three meetings at the white house today, including one with the nra and five other shooting support groups. earlier today the vice president...
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the nra says it's confident congress will not pass this particular bill. senate majority leader democrat harry reid, a long-time gun rights advocate, has been under pressure to act. he is hinting he may allow a measure to go to a vote, but only with a very liberal amendment process which could strip out the most controversial parts of the measure. >> shepard: shannon bream in washington. we're gotting our first look at rare photos that show the private life of the kennedy family. they've been locked up at the home of the late long-time kennedy aide. this picture said to be from 1954 shows the future president, john f. kennedy, and his wife, jackie, and his sister, ethel. you can see jackie with the camera taking it there. this is a birthday card that jfk, junior gave his father in 1963. the year an assassin's bullet would kill the president. relatives of the aide say they found them as they discovered to sell his home. >>> the cost of snail mail goes up on sunday. the price of a stamp going up a penny to 46 cents, sending a letter internationally jumping t
the nra says it's confident congress will not pass this particular bill. senate majority leader democrat harry reid, a long-time gun rights advocate, has been under pressure to act. he is hinting he may allow a measure to go to a vote, but only with a very liberal amendment process which could strip out the most controversial parts of the measure. >> shepard: shannon bream in washington. we're gotting our first look at rare photos that show the private life of the kennedy family. they've...
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>> the nra has become an institution of gun manufacturers. this morning on the front page of "the new york times," i was reading about their program now to provide weapons and training for youngsters from eight years old to 15 years old. and this is supported by the gun manufacturers. in other words, here is a whole new group of people for me to get these weapons to. it doesn't happen to the adults. >> certainly people with guns in terms of sport and hunting is not a new phenomenon. we train them. we want to make sure people who have guns know how to use them. i want to ask about the nra and this is kind of -- wayne la pierre, one of those who will fight you tooth and nail. one of the things he said. >> politicians pass laws for gun-free school zones. in doing so, they tell every insane killer in america, that schools are the safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk. politicians have no business and no authority denying us the right, the ability, moral imperative from protecting ourselves and our loved ones from harm. >> wayne
>> the nra has become an institution of gun manufacturers. this morning on the front page of "the new york times," i was reading about their program now to provide weapons and training for youngsters from eight years old to 15 years old. and this is supported by the gun manufacturers. in other words, here is a whole new group of people for me to get these weapons to. it doesn't happen to the adults. >> certainly people with guns in terms of sport and hunting is not a new...
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the nra's wayne lapiera pfepier we're out of time. we're going to keep this conversation up for months. you have had the experience of knowing how important it is. gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gaggy yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. jifs going to say in closing, 20 dead first graders has a way of concentrating the mind. >> right. >> it's a serious conversation. it's an american conversation. thank you, congresswoman carolyn mccarthy of new york and ron reagan. >>> we have one more note about the epidemic of gun violence in this country. yesterday we told you about 15-year-oldh adia pendleton of chicago who was fate ideally shot in what may have been a gang turf war. after having performed in washington with her high school band for the inaugural music festival, it all happened since then, we learned in 20
the nra's wayne lapiera pfepier we're out of time. we're going to keep this conversation up for months. you have had the experience of knowing how important it is. gabby giffords, husband mark kelly. >> and that's the difference other victims are now speaking up, and to see gaggy yesterday and her husband by her side talking about this, these were strong nra supporters and yet they see what can be done. >> i think -- >> 20 dead first graders -- >> go ahead, ron. jifs...
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tonight, major nra flip-flop. at a hearing today, the head of the gun group shared his thoughts on background checks and as you might guess, he is against them. but, he wasn't always. jim acosta has the story. >> please, i'm not trying to play games here. >> it flared up early when patrick leahy grilled lapierre over background checks. >> you do not support mandatory background checks in all instances at gun shows. >> we do not because the fact is, law right now is a failure the way it's working. >> as it turns out, he was for background checks at gun shows before he was against them. and said so in 1999. >> we think it's reasonable to provide mandatory, instant criminal background checks for every sale at every gun show. no loopholes anywhere for anyone. >> when he was reminded of that line -- >> now, you do not support background checks for all firearms. >> i think the check system the way it's working now is a failure. >> lapierre's argument -- >> the problem with gun laws is criminals don't cooperate with them
tonight, major nra flip-flop. at a hearing today, the head of the gun group shared his thoughts on background checks and as you might guess, he is against them. but, he wasn't always. jim acosta has the story. >> please, i'm not trying to play games here. >> it flared up early when patrick leahy grilled lapierre over background checks. >> you do not support mandatory background checks in all instances at gun shows. >> we do not because the fact is, law right now is a...
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how badly did the nra hurt you in pennsylvania where the nra is king? >> well, we've always had healthy respect for nra and the second amendment, but it's pretty clear to me that after that vote they were able to harness some considerable opposition to my candidacy, which, obviously, as organized as it was, i managed to prevail, and one of the challenges i think the nra needs to confront -- and i'm -- i want to protect the second amendment rights as well, but you take a look at every constitutional amendment, and there are legitimate restrictions and modifications. the best example i can give everybody is freedom of speech. absolutely, but it's not universal. you cannot yell fire in a crowded theater. the right to bare arms under the second amendment allows us to -- is a constitutionally protected right, but, i mean, how far do you go? i think as a veteran and i dare say if you ask any veteran who has used an assault weapon in combat or trained with it, whether or not they think their next door neighbor as well-intentioned as they are needs to be able t
how badly did the nra hurt you in pennsylvania where the nra is king? >> well, we've always had healthy respect for nra and the second amendment, but it's pretty clear to me that after that vote they were able to harness some considerable opposition to my candidacy, which, obviously, as organized as it was, i managed to prevail, and one of the challenges i think the nra needs to confront -- and i'm -- i want to protect the second amendment rights as well, but you take a look at every...
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. >> appearing with the sandy hook promise, connecticut senator chris murphy predicted a defeat of nra efforts to block the approval of a new assault weapons ban. >> his job to say no gun control and has congress, but they are wrong. they will see they are wrong as this president brings the full weight of his office to the house and senate and as republicans and democrats grievously have pledged to the nra start turning a different direction. i think today is an important day because it gives a clear forum for people across newtown, across the state, and across this nation and lecturer -- clear the status quo is not ok when it comes to the laws on guns in this country. >> new figures show u.s. military suicides broke another all-time record last year. 349 active duty soldiers took their own lives in 2012, far exceeding the number of u.s. troops killed in battle, according to the pentagon. the previous record of 310 suicides within army ranks was set in 2009. the figures do not include veterans no longer enlisted in the military. president obama has rolled out a new round of talks with
. >> appearing with the sandy hook promise, connecticut senator chris murphy predicted a defeat of nra efforts to block the approval of a new assault weapons ban. >> his job to say no gun control and has congress, but they are wrong. they will see they are wrong as this president brings the full weight of his office to the house and senate and as republicans and democrats grievously have pledged to the nra start turning a different direction. i think today is an important day...
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the nra was saying if we don't have this bill then gun companies will go bankrupt but that's not true. we need to go forward and correct this and hagel could take a really important step in doing that by going forward and saying the pentagon is reversing its position on this. >> sam kleiner from slate. people can read the article. it's fascinating. thank you so much. something we didn't think about what's going on now on capitol hill, the hearing that is ongoing for chuck hagel. that is going to wrap up this how. i'm chris jansing. thomas roberts is up next. good morning, thomas. >> hi, chris. good morning to you. good morning, everybody. we will continue following what's taking place in washington, d.c., right now. on the agenda much more of chuck hagel facing critics, republican and democrat and what are the odds of him getting confirmed? we have an all-star lineup for you, host of "the ed show" will join me, the co-host of "the cycle" will be here and one of hagel's staunchest supporters, john kerry. police taking out the underground bunker where a 6-year-old boy is being held host
the nra was saying if we don't have this bill then gun companies will go bankrupt but that's not true. we need to go forward and correct this and hagel could take a really important step in doing that by going forward and saying the pentagon is reversing its position on this. >> sam kleiner from slate. people can read the article. it's fascinating. thank you so much. something we didn't think about what's going on now on capitol hill, the hearing that is ongoing for chuck hagel. that is...
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i always talk to the nra as representing gun manufacturers. and i think the more people who realize this that it is really about manufacturers and not the average gun owner in america, the more people who own guns are going to say wait a minute? does the nra represent my interests or the interests of the manufacturers? and what you would like to see is more reasonable people take over the nra or start more organizations. when i was a kid, the nra was more about teaching gun safety. it was not about this hard-line political organization. i think the data from gun manufacturers really makes a point that gun owners really need a different organization. >> thank you both for your time this evening. and don't forget to tune into melissa harris-perry saturdays and sundays at 10 a.m. here on msnbc. >>> coming up, president obama's big step towardss -- plus, remember when todd legitimate rape akin said that. what are these people thinking? i guess they're not. >>> and should president obama be on mt. rushmore? it is a question getting a lot of attenti
i always talk to the nra as representing gun manufacturers. and i think the more people who realize this that it is really about manufacturers and not the average gun owner in america, the more people who own guns are going to say wait a minute? does the nra represent my interests or the interests of the manufacturers? and what you would like to see is more reasonable people take over the nra or start more organizations. when i was a kid, the nra was more about teaching gun safety. it was not...
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we also see the nra. they're very powerful. still powerful. and they have a lot of allies in congress, not just among the republicans, but also with some democrats. the new senator from north dakota who was out over the weekend certainly doesn't seem open to a lot of these proposals. so it's going to be a legislative challenge for the white house to push forward whatever proposals they develop and get those passed in congress. >> are there people in the house and senate who have sort of cred on both sides they think they can use. we have heard a number of gun owners, people who have ratings with the nra saying things like you don't need an assault weapon to go duck hunting. >> you know, there are some. i think we're going to see them emerge and play sort of a leadership role once these proposals are developed. the president himself is going to try to make a public relations push to generate public support out in the country for these proposals. the white house is talking with some people who are advisers to michael bloomberg, the mayor of new
we also see the nra. they're very powerful. still powerful. and they have a lot of allies in congress, not just among the republicans, but also with some democrats. the new senator from north dakota who was out over the weekend certainly doesn't seem open to a lot of these proposals. so it's going to be a legislative challenge for the white house to push forward whatever proposals they develop and get those passed in congress. >> are there people in the house and senate who have sort of...
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and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger issues enjoy almost 90% in public polling but the bigger issue will be harder to achieve. >> the nra is talking about what they feel is the obvious choice in all of this, it's not more gun regulation, it's enforcing laws we have on the books and evaluating mental health and the fact they think more schools to avoid school shootings need more armed security. the nra statistics since the newtown shooting, 4.5 million people current membership, they report a 400,000 surge in membership, 8,000 a day week after the shooting. ben, when you look at those
and the nra, so for him it's a tricky situation. i think it's going to be -- you've asked debbie wasserman-shultz, does her voice resonate. of course it does emotional. i was there when she got a standing ovation and hugged the president, but it's going to be a tough road to ho. i think you'll see folks say, let's have a smaller piece of legislation that might be more acceptable to conservatives who don't want to go too far. the universal background checks is the most likely and the bigger...
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nra because most of their members, 74% of the nra members feel there should be sensible gun reform. >> we had christina taylor-green's mom in the last hour talking about the efforts. she has mobilized along with her family to make sure christina was not lost in vain two years ago. i want to play what she had to say. take a listen. >> we just want sensible gun control. we want to come up with a plan where everyone is rirped to have a background check, that military style weapons do not have to be owned by the average person, and that we come up with a mental health care plan. >> as we talk about patricia what needs to be done on a federal level nationally. what has been done in your community of arizona in the last two years that makes you feel that not only that community has done something to move forward but that can be used as an example for elsewhere? >> well, unfortunately i don't think much has been done at all. our state legislator during the -- right after the shootings decided that it was appropriate to name a state gun. that seemed like a slap in the face. we have a buy ba
nra because most of their members, 74% of the nra members feel there should be sensible gun reform. >> we had christina taylor-green's mom in the last hour talking about the efforts. she has mobilized along with her family to make sure christina was not lost in vain two years ago. i want to play what she had to say. take a listen. >> we just want sensible gun control. we want to come up with a plan where everyone is rirped to have a background check, that military style weapons do...
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telling you between this battle between now and when we get this passed you are going to hear from the nra, and there are an awful lot of them saying that's not going to do anything. i'm saying to you at the we can save lives. >> will it be hard? for sure. we owe it to our constituents and our country to try. new york city senator, you have a bill on an anti-gun trafficking measure. tell me about whether or not you think that you can push ahead with it, where the support is, what can you tell us about it today? >> well, i have been working on this anti-trafficking measure for a while because we have such a challenge in new york. 58% of the weapons used in crimes come from out of state, and 90% are illegal. senator mark kirk and i sat down yesterday talked about our bill, and we decided we're going to introduce this bipartisan bill next week, and i think it's something that can really make a difference because we have to stop the flow of illegal guns going straight to the hands of the criminals. that will be awe great compliment to what senator fine sign and senator schumer and others are w
telling you between this battle between now and when we get this passed you are going to hear from the nra, and there are an awful lot of them saying that's not going to do anything. i'm saying to you at the we can save lives. >> will it be hard? for sure. we owe it to our constituents and our country to try. new york city senator, you have a bill on an anti-gun trafficking measure. tell me about whether or not you think that you can push ahead with it, where the support is, what can you...
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but remember the nra members don't get a vote here. it's the nra board that runs that organization. we're talking about guys who own soldier of fortune magazine, and ted nugent who are extreme nut cases when it comes to guns. >> john: that's a bit of an offense to nut cases but i see your point and i see little leadership coming from washington, d.c. and the fact that you're out there trying to save lives makes you the real patriots. thank you for your time, thank you for your service. coming up only three things are certain in obama's second term, debt taxes and caving in on debt and taxes--still. every six months without an accident, allstate sends a check. ok. [ voice of dennis ] silence. are you in good hands? >> john: the only news coming out of dc as 2012 came to an end was the fiscal cliff. congress working through christmas and senators having to work on new year's eve. then they finally came up with a deal on taxes so the issue can be put to rest for a long time. thank god we never have to talk about that any more. >> more taxes? >> we're talking about looking at the tax co
but remember the nra members don't get a vote here. it's the nra board that runs that organization. we're talking about guys who own soldier of fortune magazine, and ted nugent who are extreme nut cases when it comes to guns. >> john: that's a bit of an offense to nut cases but i see your point and i see little leadership coming from washington, d.c. and the fact that you're out there trying to save lives makes you the real patriots. thank you for your time, thank you for your service....
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this shows just i think how extreme and outrageous the nra and i assume the hecklers were nra moles, how they've become. you consider that in the context of the other absurd statements they have made about martin luther king and the civil rights movement going after the president's children. contrast that with what the president is doing which you mentioned in the setup piece, which is meeting with law enforcement, and if you take a look back at what happened in 1994, the principal strategy of those who wanted to pass the assault weapons ban was to get with law enforcement. if you were for common sense gun regulations you were for getting tough on crime. if you were against them, you were weak on crime. that got a number of votes from the republican party. the president clearly occupying the political center with law enforcement, parents, teachers, community leaders. the nra and some elements of the republican party associating themselves with people that would desecrate the memory of the victims in newtown, people that would then try to, as "the new york times" exposed yesterday, ma
this shows just i think how extreme and outrageous the nra and i assume the hecklers were nra moles, how they've become. you consider that in the context of the other absurd statements they have made about martin luther king and the civil rights movement going after the president's children. contrast that with what the president is doing which you mentioned in the setup piece, which is meeting with law enforcement, and if you take a look back at what happened in 1994, the principal strategy of...
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the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not destroy the weapons that people handed over specifically so the weapons could be destroyed. instead, the nra says the state has to sell them, keep them in circulation, and thereby become a gun dealer itself. when your response to the political cliche of low-hanging fruit is something so cartoonishly insensitive, so cartoonishly villainous, you then bring upon us a second political cliche. you have jumped the shark. blocking voluntary efforts by people to get rid of their own guns because they want to voluntarily? that is an exercise in shark jumping. this i
the nra is opposed to this. the nra is wildly opposed to this. in tucson top, anniversary of the massacre there, the nra has come outraging against the tucson gun buyback program. they're trying to stop it. an nra board member is threatening that the nra will sue to stop tucson from destroying the guns that they handed over. the guns, regardless what their owners wanted, done with them, those guns must be sold to the highest bidder and put back into circulation. the nra says the state must not...
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during the 2012 campaign, the nra targeted senate candidates with a low nra rating, like tim kaine and spent more than $4 million on senate campaigns last year, losing seven out of eight races where they spent over 100,000. the only winner, republican jeff flake of arizona who sits on the judiciary committee, the group who will craft any legislation on guns. but money isn't the only way to measure influence. >> i think that the nra as a single issue group is extremely potent political force out there. and even though their success rate was 50% with their outside spending in the last election, they have these members, millions of members that they can mobilize who are passionately motivated on this issue. >> reporter: 4 1/2 million members, according to the nra, who they can call on to lobby congress or vote in elections. >> the nra doesn't have the power but those who believe in the second amendment do. >> reporter: david keene points to the wisconsin recall as a prime example. that election kept pro gun rights republican governor scott walker in office. >> in that race, we made a six-
during the 2012 campaign, the nra targeted senate candidates with a low nra rating, like tim kaine and spent more than $4 million on senate campaigns last year, losing seven out of eight races where they spent over 100,000. the only winner, republican jeff flake of arizona who sits on the judiciary committee, the group who will craft any legislation on guns. but money isn't the only way to measure influence. >> i think that the nra as a single issue group is extremely potent political...
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colby, will this be a showdown with the nra over an assault weapons ban? >> no, it will not be gunfight at the o.k. corral. they will oppose any effort to do any thing on guns, and they may prevail. and there will probably be some agreement on background checks. to be parochial about this, in the district of columbia it would mean nothing to us regardless of any proposal did last year, the metropolitan police department recovered 1600 firearms. the year before, 2000 firearms. since 2003, more than 20,000 illegal weapons have been recovered in the district of columbia. no legal weapons allowed, and yet we recovered over 20,000 weapons. no legislation is dealing with this problem and a lot of urban problems. >> charles? >> that is exactly the core of the issue, that is the conundrum of the reason the assault weapon ban of the mid-90s, which lasted a decade, had no effect, is because it left existing and circulation the weapons people already had. unless you're going to confiscate, which australia did, but we cannot under the second amendment -- part of our c
colby, will this be a showdown with the nra over an assault weapons ban? >> no, it will not be gunfight at the o.k. corral. they will oppose any effort to do any thing on guns, and they may prevail. and there will probably be some agreement on background checks. to be parochial about this, in the district of columbia it would mean nothing to us regardless of any proposal did last year, the metropolitan police department recovered 1600 firearms. the year before, 2000 firearms. since 2003,...
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senator you have an a-rating from the nra and senator blumenthal, an f-rating from the nra. when you look at the ideas that vice president biden is talking about and will submit to the president on tuesday, i want to ask you both what you can support. senator ayotte, can you support the idea of universal background checks. >> chris, let me say i think, i think it would be important that we have the thoughtful discussion about this. we have -- i didn't hear a lot of discussion this morning with your prior guests about also our mental healthsystem. my background before serving in the senate, i was a homicide prosecutor and i come at it from a perspective, taking away the rights of law abiding citizens will not stop a deranged individual or a criminal. that said, should we look at improving our background check system? i'm willing to listen to what proposals come forward on that. but, again, i don't know that that wouldn't have stopped what happened in newtown, and i think we need to be thoughtful in how we go forward with what happens and make sure that whatever is done, actua
senator you have an a-rating from the nra and senator blumenthal, an f-rating from the nra. when you look at the ideas that vice president biden is talking about and will submit to the president on tuesday, i want to ask you both what you can support. senator ayotte, can you support the idea of universal background checks. >> chris, let me say i think, i think it would be important that we have the thoughtful discussion about this. we have -- i didn't hear a lot of discussion this morning...
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. >> well, the nra and the republicans who support them, this is always their strategy is basically to slow walk any gun legislation -- >> but you and i know that at the end of the year we were told that things changed. newtown changed everything and wayne lappier going out and they said that the game changed after those lives were lost so the strategy of wait won't work. >> well, is that true or not? >> yeah. >> i think we will see if the pressure keeps up or fades. i think frankly a lot of the public sentiment has faded. a lot of public pressure has faded and the longer legislators wait to about on this the longer and the degree to which the president chooses to press it, whether he chooses to make it part of the inaugural or state of the union remarks is a point, too. this is whether he has the political will to keep it on the radar. >> "the washington post" is reporting a more ambitious gun control legislation by the president. he wants the ideas before the state of the union and a part of that. i really appreciate your time. thank you for joining us. happy new year. >> thank you.
. >> well, the nra and the republicans who support them, this is always their strategy is basically to slow walk any gun legislation -- >> but you and i know that at the end of the year we were told that things changed. newtown changed everything and wayne lappier going out and they said that the game changed after those lives were lost so the strategy of wait won't work. >> well, is that true or not? >> yeah. >> i think we will see if the pressure keeps up or...
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so, what is your bhej to the nra, does the gaming industry have a message to the nra? >> our message to the nra is the same as the message to everyone. look at the science. the supreme court looked at all the science when the forces of sentence s -- censorship wanted to ban the games and it was roundly rejected. there's no evidence that violent video games cause violence and there's good evidence, good research coming out now that video games even violent video games have benefits. helping to reduce aggression. when people are feeling stressed and angry and they play a video game that has violence in it, they often come out feeling less stressed and angry afterwards. and violent video games are only sold to adults, children cannot buy them, adults can buy them and play them themselves. >> daniel, thank you for taking time out for me, i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> absolutely. ach began president, has returned home. and the earth guesting hotter, this year maerked the hottest year on record, how do we analyze this? we will talk about that next. you are watching msnbc
so, what is your bhej to the nra, does the gaming industry have a message to the nra? >> our message to the nra is the same as the message to everyone. look at the science. the supreme court looked at all the science when the forces of sentence s -- censorship wanted to ban the games and it was roundly rejected. there's no evidence that violent video games cause violence and there's good evidence, good research coming out now that video games even violent video games have benefits....
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the nra is against any type of assault weapons ban. they say it wasn't effected in 1994 when it was put into effect and puts dangerous weapons into the hands of criminals who essentially don't follow the law, something else that could be part of this legislation is creating a registry for any weapons that were obtained before this ban goes in place, and a speech this week one of the nra's eleader's's wayne lapierre says that was totally unacceptable to the nra. >> dianne feinstein's conference is scheduled for 11:00 a.m. eastern, about two hours from now. >>> the military is making a major change, for the first time in history women will be allowed to serve on the front lines but don't expect to see changes right away. pentagon correspondent chris lawrence tells us why. >> reporter: army infantry, marine recon, even special ops, on thursday, they all opened to women for the first time. the pentagon is eliminating its ban on women in combat, but there's a catch. did you know today's army would be so different than the one you joined? >>
the nra is against any type of assault weapons ban. they say it wasn't effected in 1994 when it was put into effect and puts dangerous weapons into the hands of criminals who essentially don't follow the law, something else that could be part of this legislation is creating a registry for any weapons that were obtained before this ban goes in place, and a speech this week one of the nra's eleader's's wayne lapierre says that was totally unacceptable to the nra. >> dianne feinstein's...
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>> jennifer: the rhetoric is so hot that it would be fair to wonder if the nra leadership and the anti-gun safety crowd live on the same planet as the pro gun safety crowd. listen to senator lindsey graham as he explains why ordinary citizenses should be allowed to have ar-15 assault rifles. >> what if there is an earthquake situation and you need your ar-15. what about the riots. >> jennifer: earthquakes riots of course you need an assault rifle for those things. and many in washington share show views. maybe if they met with community leaders on the front line of every day gun violence like nancy pelosi did yesterday maybe they would realize that ordinary citizens armed with assault weapons really isn't the answer. joe marshall, the director of mega boy's club and part of vice president biden's task force. he's joining us. welcome inside "the war room"." >> thank you, glad to be here. >> jennifer: floodglad to have you here. you just heard the sound bite from senator graham. what do you say to that? >> if martians come down and debate. when i wish he would come talk to my young people an
>> jennifer: the rhetoric is so hot that it would be fair to wonder if the nra leadership and the anti-gun safety crowd live on the same planet as the pro gun safety crowd. listen to senator lindsey graham as he explains why ordinary citizenses should be allowed to have ar-15 assault rifles. >> what if there is an earthquake situation and you need your ar-15. what about the riots. >> jennifer: earthquakes riots of course you need an assault rifle for those things. and many in...
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by the way, the industry funds the nra. if the nra has a chokehold on the american political atmosphere, they have the money to do it. >> bill, help me understand a little bit more. i appreciate the end goal that you have in mind here of increased gun control and security, but are gun manufacturers really the place to go after? aren't they just sort of responding to the existing market incentives and the legal structure that exists? i mean, what ultimately are you hoping that they would do differently? >> i want them to stop selling, to begin with, military grade weapons and ammunition on the market. the vast majority of the cases these were legally purchased weapons. this is what we have to look in the face. the massacres horrify us, especially newtown losing 20 children. it is not like the guns gotten from criminal enterprises. they were readily available on the civilian market. we should not have that kind of weapon available to any civilian is the bottom line. i hope there will be an assault weapons ban passed in washin
by the way, the industry funds the nra. if the nra has a chokehold on the american political atmosphere, they have the money to do it. >> bill, help me understand a little bit more. i appreciate the end goal that you have in mind here of increased gun control and security, but are gun manufacturers really the place to go after? aren't they just sort of responding to the existing market incentives and the legal structure that exists? i mean, what ultimately are you hoping that they would...
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you can't just push the nra away and law abiding gun owners away. they have to be at the table and you need to find out what their preference of protecting that. the other thing is the registration. these are discussions we have to have. we've got an atmosphere in washington bob that basically is guilt through conversation anywhere. that if i sit down and say i'm willing to talk about this i want to know more about mental illness, about registration, about clips. i want to know people that are protecting those defending those positions. how about the first amendment. and what i would say to all of my friends in their nra and gun owners that there's no way that they're going to take your second amendment rights away. that won't happen. and the first amendment won't be infringed monday but we have to look at how do we cure this violence the culture of mass violence. >> schieffer: it's a pleasure to have you. hopefully we'll see you. and we'll be back in a moment to talk to general stanley mcchrystal. >> schieffer: we welcome general stanley mcchrystal
you can't just push the nra away and law abiding gun owners away. they have to be at the table and you need to find out what their preference of protecting that. the other thing is the registration. these are discussions we have to have. we've got an atmosphere in washington bob that basically is guilt through conversation anywhere. that if i sit down and say i'm willing to talk about this i want to know more about mental illness, about registration, about clips. i want to know people that are...